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Toyota should’ve learned from VW how to prevent “unintended acceleration”
I made this video before the recall and production shutdown was announced, and now that Toyota has admitted the flaw in their accelerator pedal design (and stopped blaming it on just improperly installed floor mats), it just gives credence to the fact that Toyota’s problems would’ve been largely avoided if they had used the same kind of brake cutout feature that Volkswagen has implemented in all of their “drive by wire” systems, dating back to at least 1995 — as I demonstrate here in my 1997 VW Passat TDI.
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25 comments on “Toyota should’ve learned from VW how to prevent “unintended acceleration””
@Knaeckebrotsaege The Pontiac Vibe was also affected by the Toyota pedal recall, and now Dodge just announced a recall of one of its SUVs due to “unintended acceleration” problems with a gas pedal made by the same supplier that Toyota used.
@dlgenner … or know how to f*ckin turn the engine off or at least put the damn thing in neutral.. lol!
still thinking it could be a government thing though (the whole pedal story).
the government bailed out all those US manufacturers. so why not help them along a little bit by badmouthing the foreign carmakers so ppl will buy from the bailout ones..?
i sure think this could be possible. especially in a greedy area that has anything to do with cars & the oil mafia.. pardon.. oil industry..
@ILovemyTaurus Thanks for your opinion, but it’s hard to defend a company which chose not to implement a critical safety technology which has existed and been used in other cars for the past 15 years.
@g0fvt Regardless of what the electronics are doing, I can always shift to neutral and apply the brakes. But in Toyota’s case, with an electronic transmission and regenerative brakes, the ability to do that when the car’s electronics are freaking out becomes questionable.
Your VW is functioning correctly, but if the electronics failed it would misbehave. Ironically the interlocks on cars to make them fool proof can bite you back under some conditions.
Drive by wire is the problem to begin with. Your TDI electronic throttle seems to work fine. But just rember that any sensor can go bad and send a false signal to the ECU. At least it a mechanical throttle linkage breaks you CAN’T accelerate. That just seems more idiot proof from an engineering aspect. Mechanical is safer, but unfortunately those two sensors must cost less than the man hours to run & connect a cable through the firewall.
Diesels dont have Thottle plate, your throttle controls fuel injection not a butterfly valve lilke a petrol engine, the rest of your video is correct however.
That’s a good idea because there seems to be a lot of people that don’t know one pedal from the other…they need to take driving classes…VW was smart to do this on their cars.
Da9eI says:
July 24th, 2010
2:25 pm
My Saab 9-3 2.2 Diesel does this too
vwestlife says:
July 24th, 2010
3:05 pm
@Knaeckebrotsaege The Pontiac Vibe was also affected by the Toyota pedal recall, and now Dodge just announced a recall of one of its SUVs due to “unintended acceleration” problems with a gas pedal made by the same supplier that Toyota used.
Knaeckebrotsaege says:
July 24th, 2010
3:44 pm
@dlgenner … or know how to f*ckin turn the engine off or at least put the damn thing in neutral.. lol!
still thinking it could be a government thing though (the whole pedal story).
the government bailed out all those US manufacturers. so why not help them along a little bit by badmouthing the foreign carmakers so ppl will buy from the bailout ones..?
i sure think this could be possible. especially in a greedy area that has anything to do with cars & the oil mafia.. pardon.. oil industry..
vwestlife says:
July 24th, 2010
3:54 pm
@Batmanshack Thanks! I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
Batmanshack says:
July 24th, 2010
4:36 pm
@vwestlife You really are stupid…. Keep believing everything you hear on TV and news….
vwestlife says:
July 24th, 2010
4:44 pm
@ILovemyTaurus Thanks for your opinion, but it’s hard to defend a company which chose not to implement a critical safety technology which has existed and been used in other cars for the past 15 years.
ILovemyTaurus says:
July 24th, 2010
5:22 pm
this video is fuckin stupid. why dont you say directly that you hate toyota. but vw sure sucks dicks a lot.
warset says:
July 24th, 2010
5:35 pm
@dlgenner no the current toyotas do not have this system
they were just talking about to include this system in their coming models
vwestlife says:
July 24th, 2010
5:44 pm
@g0fvt Regardless of what the electronics are doing, I can always shift to neutral and apply the brakes. But in Toyota’s case, with an electronic transmission and regenerative brakes, the ability to do that when the car’s electronics are freaking out becomes questionable.
g0fvt says:
July 24th, 2010
6:29 pm
Your VW is functioning correctly, but if the electronics failed it would misbehave. Ironically the interlocks on cars to make them fool proof can bite you back under some conditions.
yadidimeanmaine says:
July 24th, 2010
6:46 pm
Drive by wire is the problem to begin with. Your TDI electronic throttle seems to work fine. But just rember that any sensor can go bad and send a false signal to the ECU. At least it a mechanical throttle linkage breaks you CAN’T accelerate. That just seems more idiot proof from an engineering aspect. Mechanical is safer, but unfortunately those two sensors must cost less than the man hours to run & connect a cable through the firewall.
SpeedSirAudi says:
July 24th, 2010
6:58 pm
German cars are one step ahead of other car makers. Simple as that. Nice Vid
vwestlife says:
July 24th, 2010
7:12 pm
Thanks for watching!
vwestlife says:
July 24th, 2010
7:17 pm
I’m glad you liked it!
UNBOXINGCAR says:
July 24th, 2010
7:31 pm
This video is an asshole…
BRIGH58 says:
July 24th, 2010
8:29 pm
This video sucks a lot bro
Jolinator says:
July 24th, 2010
8:57 pm
im sure you knew mate (most vw drivers are technically inclined) i was just in a horrible mood and made a douche remark, all the best cheers!
vwestlife says:
July 24th, 2010
9:36 pm
I know that, but I was just using common terminology… to most drivers, it is a “throttle” or “gas pedal” regardless of what kind of engine they have.
Jolinator says:
July 24th, 2010
9:37 pm
Diesels dont have Thottle plate, your throttle controls fuel injection not a butterfly valve lilke a petrol engine, the rest of your video is correct however.
micey1105 says:
July 24th, 2010
10:24 pm
Some people use accelerator and brake simultaneously in their way of driving… This feature would annoy me…
hoosiercub says:
July 24th, 2010
10:47 pm
x100.. soo 5000 rpm
JOHNINCOLUMBUS says:
July 24th, 2010
11:30 pm
That’s a good idea because there seems to be a lot of people that don’t know one pedal from the other…they need to take driving classes…VW was smart to do this on their cars.
TimidALFONS0 says:
July 24th, 2010
11:46 pm
50 x100 same as 5 x1000
dlgenner says:
July 25th, 2010
12:42 am
Toyotas have the same system its just Americans dont know how to drive, maybe???
vwestlife says:
July 25th, 2010
1:38 am
Yes… it’s a diesel.